Pray Tell Live Roundtable Discussion: “Vatican II: Dead or Alive?”

5:30–6:00 pm ET
Pray Tell Roundtable Discussion with Rita Ferrone, John Baldovin, SJ, Karen Kane, and Rufino Zaragoza, OFM
“Vatican II: Dead or Alive?”

Archive of the Roundtable Discussion:

Fifty years ago can seem like ancient history. Gone. Done. Finished. Yet the reforms of Vatican II are still very much with us, and continue to press us forward. This panel will discuss the questions: Is Vatican II dead? And if it’s alive, where and how is it alive? In the era of Pope Francis, what next steps might be on the horizon for the implementation of the Council?


  1. Answer to John Baldovin’s question, whether Pope Francis is the first Pope to be ordained after Vatican II – Yes. He was ordained on December 13th, 1969.
    Wonderful roundtable. Lots to think about. Was struck by the way John Baldovin SJ, Rufino Zaragoza OFM and Theresa Kane were all strong on the topic of the Church becoming more mult-cultural. Vatican II, the renewal of the liturgy, is still a living topic if and for as long as we, the Church of Europe and Nth America, are willing to ask ourselves, what can we learn about being Church and celebrating the sacraments and our faith from the churches of Latin America, Africa and Asia.

  2. Looking to find Rita’s new book at the convention after her great keynote. Who is the publisher?

  3. Steve, the publisher is Paulist Press, but because they don’t have a booth, they arranged to have it available courtesy of World Library Publications, whose booth is on the right of the main exhibit hall. I write this from the airport. Sorry I’m not there to sign a copy for you!

  4. So many things to think about! In the group’s discussion about meeting people where they are and helping others see the vast opportunities to truly experience Christ in the world (and in the liturgy), I had several thoughts…

    In some senses, the work of liturgy is to help make the paschal mystery relatable through the expression of self and community. As a liturgical musician, ministry during the liturgy requires a deeply perceptive knowledge of my congregation, my ministers, my clergy, my community, and myself (which, arguably, is the most important part). My goal is to become completely vulnerable to the moment, space, and time of the liturgy by offering my entire being through the music and text. When there are more ministers involved, I must help them to express themselves without putting them into a box – allowing their God-given creativity to flow through them as they offer their vulnerability to others and to God. THIS is what is relatable about Christ, THIS vulnerability.

    Yo Yo Ma, one of the great cellists of our time, stated quite recently in a speech at the Kennedy Center for the Performing Arts that to create music that is truly beautiful, we must be attuned to the large picture of the work while giving the utmost attention and care to the smallest detail. This puts us in the mind of the composer, connecting him/her with ourselves while allowing our vulnerability and creativity to add to what is already there. The music is now relatable to the active listener. This quintessential element of music can be expanded to envelop the entirety of liturgy, and arguably, the C/church. Putting into action the broad-reaching traditions of our faith, we not only actively connect ourselves with God (individual and communal), but with our sisters and brothers in the margins of society. In that respect, Vatican II truly is alive.

    I apologize if I’m not clear in my thought. My thinking is a bit romantic and grandiose at the moment; the topic is fresh in my mind.

  5. Vatican II might as well be Talking about World War I. But World War I is still going on. the mess in the middle east comes out of the grim work that the Allied powers made of power plays and artificial borders.
    When I was in school I thought I would never hear of Sarajevo except in the context of the assassination of the Archduke Ferdinand and his wife. BUT>>>>guess what…the issues did not go away and Sarajevo was back in the news. World War I indeed.

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