I Advent (Rollout Sunday) – How They’re Doing It In Minnesota

Here are some samples of congregational leaflets for I Advent 2011:

Saint Paul Cathedral, St. Paul, Minnesota: Rob Ridgell, Music Director

Saint John’s Abbey, Collegeville, Minnesota. Note the Psallite refrains at entrance and communion.

20 comments

  1. Its gonna be ugly….REALLY ugly when the POG (People of God) come out of their comas and actually pay attention when they can no longer ignore the dew fall of the consubstantial Spirit and those really choice orations from hell.

    The only real pastoral concern: Can we nurse them gently along to Christmas!

  2. I found it interesting last Thursday evening to hear Arroyo and his priest friend pick up the refrain of a smaller, more faithful church.

    Those who express concerns that the imposition of the Vox Clara 2010 product will further hasten the emptying of Catholic Churches in the U.S. and elsewhere need to be reminded that there is a growing number of influential leaders who are not concerned at all about plummeting numbers; “smaller, faithful,” and more compliant and docile members is fine with them.

    1. Forgive the late reply, as I was out Christmas shopping with my boyfriend. One can never start too early. We hate Black Friday. Its just so depressing fighting for a TV at Walmart at 3am.

      The only problem with your comment Father is that with smaller numbers comes plummeting collections.

      In Rhode Island, most parishes already run two to three collections every single week. This, combined with a 1.5 minute sermon and a 12 minute appeal for additional cash, will just never cut it. The people are, in many cases, turned off by the “process” of church. NOW, combine this basically unfavorable rating with something new, archaic with a people be damned attitude and you really have little reason to darken the doorway at all. After all, with the implementation of the “direct deposit offering system” so popular in parishes around here, they really don’t care if you ever come, except for the $500 funeral send off.

      No Father, the church is not composed of Monahan’s of Dominos fame, but of average slobs who have a lot to worry about financially these days, and with this wonderful roll out of the Wreck from Worcester, perhaps one less thing to worry about. After all, the Wreck from Worcester has a LOT in common with this well known wreck: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S34zC9ssZP4.

    1. Troped Agnus: this is still a gray area legally, and since Sing to the Lord, though it is not liturgical law, allows Agnus tropes, I think we’re OK doing them.

      Msgr. Rick Hilgartner at the US liturgy office told me that they requested of publishers not to include tropes in new settings, but old settings are grandfathered in. And it was a request, not a directive. Publishers could include tropes if they wanted – but they’ve probably judged it wise not to do so, so that their products are usable everywhere.

      You’ll note that we’re not doing seasonal tropes anymore. Rather, they are all Lamb/Sacrificial, and they will be the same throughout the year.

      Maybe Agnus Dei tropes will be forbidden at some future date. I hope not! But they aren’t forbidden yet.

      awr

      1. Msgr. Hilgartner said the same at the FDLC meeting in Portland. Until further notice, the permission in STL holds. He didn’t mention asking the publishers to refrain from including tropes. But I guess it’s a wise move.

  3. I have said it before, and am saying it again, that “world war 3” will not errupt over this text. Rather it will errupt over music, and ceremonial. Think about it and then tell me why I am wrong.

    1. Earle,

      I tend to agree.

      So far the text has been an occasion for humor. In the parish that has begun to use the “and with your spirit” “Peace be with your spirit” has become widely used as the exchange of peace without any suggestion from above. One of the unintended consequences of liturgical change.

      I have decided to use a Pauline type salutation “The Lord be with your spirit this morning” as a greeting to friends before Mass and the farewell. “The Lord be with your spirit this week” after Mass. It accepts the changes while undermining any intent of clericalism.

      The music will be the deciding factor. The more distant parish which has the best liturgy is keeping the Mass of Creation so I will be satisfied. They seem to be adding a sung preface to an already sung EP. That will be an improvement.

      What will happen to other parishes? Probably continued mediocrity but I can hope.

      It is all the collateral changes that will matter. Like the unpredicted general disappearance of sung Mass dialogs after Vatican II.

  4. One thing that’s better about the St. John’s leaflet is that where the dialogues between the celebrant and people are sung, the celebrant’s music is given as well. It’s difficult in the St. Paul case to know where the pitch of the people’s parts will be relative to the celebrants parts (assuming that, e.g. the preface dialogue will not be accompanied).

  5. I am blessed to be a parishioner at the Cathedral of St. Paul. We worship in a beautiful space and our priests and deacons are very holy and orthodox men. I am very impressed by what Rob Ridgell has accomplished in less than six months as Director of Music and the congregational leaflet is a testament to the pastoral staff’s vision for the Liturgy.

    I look forward to the First Sunday in Advent with the first Masses using the new translation. The Cathedral did a fantastic job of catechesis with Father Andrew Cozzens and Father John Paul Erickson explaining the scriptural basis for the Mass, Father Joseph Johnson conducting question/answer sessions and Rob leading sessions on the new music, including teaching us the parts we are to sing.

    I have the privilege of reading at the 10 AM Mass this Sunday, and I am certain that this will be an emotional time as I experience something I’ve waited several years for.

    1. I was incredibly moved by the 10 AM Mass at the Cathedral this morning. Father Johnson and Deacon Shupe did a great job with the chants of the Mass and the chanting of the congregational responses were strong. You could tell that there was plenty of rehearsal, since virtually all of the Mass was chanted, with the exception of the Confiteor, Creed and third Eucharistic prayer This was the first Mass we did all the “Amens” on two notes and were very solid, if a little elongated.

      The choir was wonderful and the performance of Manz’s “E’en So.Lord Jesus” was beautiful. I am grateful that we have such strong musical leadership with Rob Ridgell and Lawrence Lawyer.

      I did an informal poll of a few of my fellow parishioners and they felt the Mass went very well. For my part, it seemed almost like a new and different liturgy, which I think is partially attributable to the new translation, along with the extensive chanting.

  6. Thanks for posting these. I found the two-column layout of portions of the St. Paul worship aid very interesting. My parish uses the 8.5×11 format now, so this is food for thought. Also, ditto to Samuel’s comments about the celebrant’s chants: those should at least have the final note or cadence printed.

  7. I was impressed with St. Paul’s worship resource also. I was impressed too that they are going actually to sing the “Pray, brothers and sisters, that my…” with the congregation’s sung response as well as singing the “Lord, I am not worthy.” When we instituted the new translation, we’ve sung all the parts except those as I was too chicken to require it from our music director and congregation. However we did implement having the cantor sing “the Word of the Lord” after the first and second readings, to which everyone sings “Thanks be to God.” Of course the readers don’t sing the readings. The cantor does the same for “the Gospel of the Lord” as our deacons are tone deaf. But I am encouraged to try eventually the “Pray brothers and sisters” as well as “Lord I am not worthy.”

    1. Say what? It’s the exact wording, unless I’m mistaken, of the approved coming translation of the apostles’ creed.

      If I’m mistaken… I (or I should say, my trusty assistant Chris Angel) will be spending much of tomorrow at the duplicating center, last day before it closes for Thanksgiving, reprinting leaflets for all of Advent. And frantically calling the professional printer preparing all our daily Mass settings for the choir stalls.

      Say it isn’t so.

      awr

      1. I would assume that he’s surprised that you’re using the Apostles’ Creed and not the Nicene Creed.

        In 36 years of Mass attendance (mostly in the UK), I’ve never used the Apostles’ Creed, it’s always been Nicene.

        Simply a departure from what we’re used to, I don’t infer he’s making a criticism of anything.

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