Comments on: Not So Fast

By: Fr. Allan McDonald

Fr. Allan McDonald — Tue, 09 Mar 2010 14:51:07 +0000

Correction to my comment above: My last sentence about distractions should have read, …the distractions are NOT based upon them praying the rosary. I should have added, chewing gum, getting up to go to the bathroom at the words of consecration, whispering to a neighbor, etc…. distract me to no end at Ordinary Form Masses.

By: Fr. Allan McDonald

Fr. Allan McDonald — Tue, 09 Mar 2010 14:00:35 +0000

I’ve seen people praying the rosary during Ordinary Form Masses too. Usually I see them doing this because I’m facing them when I celebrate the Mass. However, I think people are sometimes praying the Holy Rosary when I celebrate the EF Mass but I’m not as sure, because I’m not facing them. I’m joining them in facing the same direction. And as the priest-celebrant, I’m representing the rosary pray-ers, the actively praying out-loud pray-ers and the day dreaming ones too. They have good representation at the altar. But still we do need to catechize about the right way to participate in all forms of the Mass. I’m just happy in the EF Mass I don’t see all the shenanigans going on! I’m distracted to no end by what I see every Sunday at the OF Masses I celebrate and the distractions are based upon them praying the rosary!

By: Ian Williams

Ian Williams — Sun, 07 Mar 2010 18:22:57 +0000

John Quinn’s ‘rhetorical question’ is a sneering dismissal of others that shows disrespect to a form of prayer dear to the hearts of many. It clearly upset Fr. Costigan. It’s also largely irrelevant to discussion of the new translation of the Missal, as the recitation of the Rosary during Mass is, as you point out, a practice more associated with the EF than the Novus Ordo. This makes your justification of your failure to remove John’s remark all the more odd. Such partiality might not be agenda-driven, but it sure waddles and quacks like it.

By: Anthony Ruff, OSB

Anthony Ruff, OSB — Sun, 07 Mar 2010 17:58:30 +0000

I can’t speak for the person who posted this, but it does occur to me that people are saying Rosaries during Mass at EF celebrations. I’ve seen it. So it is continuing, and/or returning. For me that makes the rhetorical question an interesting one.
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By: Ian Williams

Ian Williams — Sun, 07 Mar 2010 17:56:16 +0000

John Quinn’s shows considerable lack of respect for fellow (I assume) Catholics.

By: Fr. Christopher Costigan

Fr. Christopher Costigan — Sun, 07 Mar 2010 13:51:58 +0000

Who are you referring to as “continuing to kneel down and get on with their rosaries”?

By: Fr. Christopher Costigan

Fr. Christopher Costigan — Sat, 06 Mar 2010 15:52:56 +0000

Two myths about the new translation. 1. It will magically bring back all of those people who have been lost over the last 45 years. 2. It will drive away all of those who remain. Neither is true.

By: John Quinn

John Quinn — Sat, 06 Mar 2010 12:56:22 +0000

Will the new missal be accepted by the few remaining persons in the pew? Will they notice the difference? Will they just continue to kneel down and get on with their rosaries?

By: Jeffrey Herbert

Jeffrey Herbert — Thu, 04 Mar 2010 18:22:09 +0000

Yep…I think the end of July sounds just about right. Unless of course there is some reason to delay it for a while more, perhaps awaiting some specific items that aren’t yet finished?… I still get the impression that there will be some surprises coming up in the next several months.

By: Paul Inwood

Paul Inwood — Thu, 04 Mar 2010 08:47:17 +0000

For what it’s worth, the grapevine is now predicting the end of July for recognitio.

That’s often a time when controversial things appear from the Vatican (remember GIRM in 2001?). It’s the time when all the Romans go away on vacation so there’s no one around to deal with any ensuing furore. By the time they come back, everything has died down and they quietly shove it all to one side.

It didn’t work in 2001 because the powers-that-be had not realized that liturgists across the world have instant communication with each other in cyberspace.