Comments on: Celebrating the Church on the Streets http://www.praytellblog.com/index.php/2010/02/27/celebrating-the-church-on-the-streets/ Worship, Wit & Wisdom Fri, 10 Feb 2012 23:31:16 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Jeffrey Herbert http://www.praytellblog.com/index.php/2010/02/27/celebrating-the-church-on-the-streets/comment-page-1/#comment-1856 Jeffrey Herbert Tue, 02 Mar 2010 17:55:45 +0000 http://www.praytellblog.com/?p=1131#comment-1856 Cody; Thanks for your insight. Again, I think this is an excellent outreach, regardless of who is out there doing the work! I doubt seriously if any of those being served are concerned about the particular denomination of those ministering to them... Cody;

Thanks for your insight. Again, I think this is an excellent outreach, regardless of who is out there doing the work! I doubt seriously if any of those being served are concerned about the particular denomination of those ministering to them…

]]> By: Rita Ferrone http://www.praytellblog.com/index.php/2010/02/27/celebrating-the-church-on-the-streets/comment-page-1/#comment-1826 Rita Ferrone Mon, 01 Mar 2010 15:06:18 +0000 http://www.praytellblog.com/?p=1131#comment-1826 This is great, but here's an uncomfortable question: Does this strategy take the heat off "indoor" communities to learn to be more accepting? We had a large outreach to the homeless at the Cathedral in Milwaukee, and they were included in parish activities (like the picnic) and were welcome at prayer and worship—but panhandling prohibited. The devastatingly poor are regularly visible in many Catholic churches in New York, where I grew up and now live. It’s kind of challenging because of overwhelming needs and especially mental illnesses that cause people to act out. But it’s accepted, at least in urban settings, and is actually evangelizing. I don't know if we'd get there if we held separate Masses on the street with them. This is great, but here’s an uncomfortable question: Does this strategy take the heat off “indoor” communities to learn to be more accepting? We had a large outreach to the homeless at the Cathedral in Milwaukee, and they were included in parish activities (like the picnic) and were welcome at prayer and worship—but panhandling prohibited. The devastatingly poor are regularly visible in many Catholic churches in New York, where I grew up and now live. It’s kind of challenging because of overwhelming needs and especially mental illnesses that cause people to act out. But it’s accepted, at least in urban settings, and is actually evangelizing. I don’t know if we’d get there if we held separate Masses on the street with them.

]]> By: Cody C. Unterseher http://www.praytellblog.com/index.php/2010/02/27/celebrating-the-church-on-the-streets/comment-page-1/#comment-1820 Cody C. Unterseher Sun, 28 Feb 2010 18:38:01 +0000 http://www.praytellblog.com/?p=1131#comment-1820 There are, to my knowledge (which may be quite wrong) no clergy in communion with the Holy See who participate. If I remember correctly, there have been Old Catholic (Union of Utrecht) clergy who have served as celebrants. A majority of Episcopal priests in the New York Diocese (and some area Lutherans, for that matter) consider themselves to be Catholic, though not in communion with Rome. From our perspective (I include myself in this group), catholicity has more to do with the substance and expression of the Deposit of Faith than it does with who's in communion with whom. This isn't a slight against our Roman Catholic friends; quite the opposite, it's a foundation on which some of us are trying to build bridges toward visible... There are, to my knowledge (which may be quite wrong) no clergy in communion with the Holy See who participate.

If I remember correctly, there have been Old Catholic (Union of Utrecht) clergy who have served as celebrants.

A majority of Episcopal priests in the New York Diocese (and some area Lutherans, for that matter) consider themselves to be Catholic, though not in communion with Rome. From our perspective (I include myself in this group), catholicity has more to do with the substance and expression of the Deposit of Faith than it does with who’s in communion with whom. This isn’t a slight against our Roman Catholic friends; quite the opposite, it’s a foundation on which some of us are trying to build bridges toward visible…

]]> By: Jeffrey Herbert http://www.praytellblog.com/index.php/2010/02/27/celebrating-the-church-on-the-streets/comment-page-1/#comment-1816 Jeffrey Herbert Sun, 28 Feb 2010 14:02:54 +0000 http://www.praytellblog.com/?p=1131#comment-1816 Cody; Are there any Catholic clergy who are not Roman Catholic participating then? The Priest pictured above appears to be Episcopal. I'm certainly no expert on Canon Law, but it would seem that a Bishop would be hesitant to allow participation by Catholic clergy due to the "user-friendly" adapted Book of Common Prayer liturgy. Don't get me wrong... this is an excellent work and of the highest form of service. My general feeling is that the church has largely gotten out of the "serving the poor" business where government has stepped in and taken over. Why deal with all the red-tape to open a shelter or a food kitchen? In the end the poor lose out. Cody;

Are there any Catholic clergy who are not Roman Catholic participating then? The Priest pictured above appears to be Episcopal.

I’m certainly no expert on Canon Law, but it would seem that a Bishop would be hesitant to allow participation by Catholic clergy due to the “user-friendly” adapted Book of Common Prayer liturgy.

Don’t get me wrong… this is an excellent work and of the highest form of service. My general feeling is that the church has largely gotten out of the “serving the poor” business where government has stepped in and taken over. Why deal with all the red-tape to open a shelter or a food kitchen? In the end the poor lose out.

]]> By: Cody C. Unterseher http://www.praytellblog.com/index.php/2010/02/27/celebrating-the-church-on-the-streets/comment-page-1/#comment-1794 Cody C. Unterseher Sat, 27 Feb 2010 17:14:23 +0000 http://www.praytellblog.com/?p=1131#comment-1794 If by Catholic you mean "Roman Catholic," then I'm unaware of any. Of course, my participation was very much on-the-ground-running: I didn't always know who was scheduled as presider from week-to-week. If by Catholic you mean “Roman Catholic,” then I’m unaware of any. Of course, my participation was very much on-the-ground-running: I didn’t always know who was scheduled as presider from week-to-week.

]]> By: Dave Madsen http://www.praytellblog.com/index.php/2010/02/27/celebrating-the-church-on-the-streets/comment-page-1/#comment-1793 Dave Madsen Sat, 27 Feb 2010 16:58:59 +0000 http://www.praytellblog.com/?p=1131#comment-1793 Hi Cody, Having being involved from the beginning of Ecclesia Ministries of NY and operating as Program Manager, I am happy to say that we now have an Ecclesia Ministries of Philadelphia--known on the street as "the church without walls" Our thrid meeting will be tomorrow in Logan Square Park, and at our last meeting we served communion, worshipped, served coffee and pastries and talked with over 150 in attendance. It is an inter-faith fellowship. Most of the leaders are clergy and we are limited to time due to parish responsibilities, but we have a number of committed laity. Dave+ Hi Cody,

Having being involved from the beginning of Ecclesia Ministries of NY and operating as Program Manager, I am happy to say that we now have an Ecclesia Ministries of Philadelphia–known on the street as “the church without walls” Our thrid meeting will be tomorrow in Logan Square Park, and at our last meeting we served communion, worshipped, served coffee and pastries and talked with over 150 in attendance. It is an inter-faith fellowship. Most of the leaders are clergy and we are limited to time due to parish responsibilities, but we have a number of committed laity.
Dave+

]]> By: Adam Wood http://www.praytellblog.com/index.php/2010/02/27/celebrating-the-church-on-the-streets/comment-page-1/#comment-1787 Adam Wood Sat, 27 Feb 2010 13:39:30 +0000 http://www.praytellblog.com/?p=1131#comment-1787 Any Catholic clergy participating? And if so- are they doing so with support of their diocese/bishops? Any Catholic clergy participating? And if so- are they doing so with support of their diocese/bishops?

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